POLL: Should Marlboro's Asher Holmes Students Recite Their Own Pledge of Allegiance?
Asher Holmes Elementary students now have their own pledge of allegiance.
Every Monday morning, Marlboro's Asher Holmes Elementary School students stand and put their hands on their hearts, but they aren't reciting a pledge you have ever heard.
I pledge allegiance to Asher Holmes and the Marlboro Township School District and to the teachers who help us learn, all that we need to know for the future. We promise to respect ourselves and others, to try our best and always be proud of our schools.
This version does not replace the American Pledge of Allegiance, which is recited by students every day. But the Asher Holmes version became a heated topic at the June 12 Marlboro Township Board of Education meeting, as one parent voiced concern that the pledge is recited in front of the American Flag and could be unconstitutional.
Asher parent Valerie Kaufman approached the board, discontent with the pledge students say every Monday morning.
"I don't know about you guys, but I've never heard of a pledge of allegiance to the school, the school district and to the teachers. I don't think it's constitutional, I don't think they should be doing it," she said. "I think we should do away with it."
Superintendent Dr. David Abbott said the pledge was put in place ten years ago, written by a fourth grade teacher. That version of the pledge used to be recited by students every day of the week.
"I don't see anything wrong with it at all," he said "You don't have to say the Pledge of Allegiance at all, that is the rule of the Constitution of the United States of America. I know it is very valued by the kids, I know that it is valued by the staff and I know it is valued by most of the parents. If you have trouble with it, you don't have to do it and your child doesn't have to do it."
Board member BonnieSue Rosenwald said she doesn't have a problem with school songs or cheers, but saluting the flag while reciting a different pledge is not an appropriate time.
"Just because it was done for ten years, doesn't mean it is right, and doesn't mean it should continue to be done," Rosenwald said. "Not when every Monday morning you are told to stand with your hand over your heart to pledge allegiance to Asher Holmes. I don't think it's right."
Kaufman said her son doesn't want to recite the Asher Holmes pledge, and from what she knows, a lot of the children join her son in his sentiments. Kaufman said many parents may not even be aware of it.
"I think we should survey the parents and let them know what their kids are doing, and see what they say," Kaufman said.
Rosenwald suggested the pledge be posted on the district website for parents to read and comment on. But Abbott said that is not the job of the board.
"Your job is policy, not administration, and you are getting very deep into administration rather than doing policy," Abbott said. "I just want to caution you of where you are going here. Where is it going to stop, in terms of all of these schools?"
The board agreed it would have its attorney look over the pledge and render a decision, before jumping to Asher Holmes administration or parents. If the attorney determines the pledge is legal, the issue is out of the Board of Education's hands and into those of the Superintendent.
The June 12 board meeting video is available at the district website and in the video attached to this article. Fast forward to the end of the meeting, around the 2 hour and 45 minute mark.
Paul Schlaflin
6:29 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
I understand the goal, but this just diminishes the meaning of the real Pledge of Allegiance. A Pledge already not taken seriously enough.
Bad idea from the best elementary school in the state!
Tracy Goff
7:26 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
i think it should be made into a song so that the children can continue to pay respect to their school, but not while holding their hand over their heart
Jim Sage
9:27 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Good job Bonnie,
And if the board attorney comes back with a ruling that permits the continuance with this ridiculous pledge--simple solution if the parents don't agree:#1, contact your board members and let them know of your displeasure; #2, Tell your Board Rep NOT TO RENEW the contract of the superintendent. If your reps are not responsive, go to #3: vote their butts out of office!!!
You see folks, its in your hands. We must prioritize our children's behavior at an early age. The Pledge of Allegiance should be instilled at the earliest age. All other pledges are secondary.
Frankie D
9:51 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Absolutely not!!
Jim Sage
5:14 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Absolutely not!! Please elaborate; I don't know whether you agree with me or not. Like Dr. Abbot stated in the video, "the board members deal with policy; the administration implements it." Ok, if the Board votes on doing away with the pledge--then the pledge goes. If there is resistance, the contract of the chief administrator, Dr. Abbot, does not get renewed. Its as simple as that.
I would love to see an up and down vote as to which board members are for the removal of the pledge and those that would like to see it remain.
cathy goldstein
9:53 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
It is unnecessary to pledge allegiance to a school. The students and parents can show their appreciation of the school staff in another manner. Certainly it should not alter the schedule of Pledging Alliance to the Flag of the U.S of A.
Cathy G
John Connor
3:38 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Shame on Dr. Abbott for challenging Mrs. Rosenwald. She was elected by us to stand up for what is obviously wrong whether it is illegal or not. That principal has enough problems without drawing more attention to himself or the school.
Rich Freeman
6:32 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
No, Pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the USA and serve the best you can..
Lisa
10:38 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Not a big deal to pledge to the school. My kids are proud to be part of their school so why not?
cynicinmarlboro
5:23 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Dr. Abbott's response to the board was totally inappropriate. I'm sure this does fall into policy and not an administrative decision. And let me ask how many teachers have told these impressionable children they do not have to do it and the reasons why? And if a child did NOT, would a teacher hold it against the child? And how many children would not want to make the teacher think less of them by not doing it so they do it anyway - conforming to the pressure?
Dr. Abbott, this "administrative" decision is not only lessening the meaning of the Pledge of Allegiance, I'm sure that it is not being "administered" properly either. Too bad it's taken this long to get to the public that did not have children in that school.
Marianne Longobardi
10:55 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Superintendent Dr. David Abbott said the pledge was put in place ten years ago, written by a fourth grade teacher.
So ONE fourth grade teacher 10yrs. ago decided what hundreds of students then after would recite as their pledge to a school!
The Pledge of Allegiance is a solemn committment to our country, it said by children to instill love of country/patriotism into these young future community members. I think the school should pledge to the parent (maybe at a PTO mtg.) that they will deliver the best quality education and instill a work effort in these young minds to achieve their future goals. Not seek homage from them!!!
Beth Donovan
8:02 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
At the very least, the stupid pledge to the teachers should have correct punctuation! Look at it carefully.
And really - the teachers will teach them ALL they need to know for the future?