.
Feedback

Tell Us: Should the Shuttles to PNC Arts Center Continue?

After a crowd control situation at the Matawan-Aberdeen train station, do you think Live Nation should continue to provide shuttle buses for concertgoers?

Police handled a large, rowdy crowd Thursday night at the , as hundreds of concert goers got off the train and waited for Live Nation shuttle buses to the PNC Bank Arts Center.

Police officers and ambulances were on hand, in anticipation of the crowds of young concert goers on their way to the 311, Slightly Stoopid concert. They were on extra alert after a similar incident in Long Branch .

 were taken to Monmouth Medical Center after passing out from heat exhaustion.

Matawan Police Department Lt. Ben Smith said he is not sure how long the shuttles have been running from Matawan, but the department prepares before every "high profile" concert with Live Nation, the company that provides buses. Crowds were on their way to the 311, Slightly Stoopid concert.

Live Nation meets with Matawan Police to review target numbers based on ticket sales for concerts, according to Smith. The department then determines how many officers and ambulances to station in the area.

Smith said Matawan officers are concerned that not enough buses were sent to Matawan by Live Nation.

"Not having adequate busing, that's what causes a lot of the problems. We had hundreds of people coming into the station at one time," Smith said.

Thursday night's situation began in Long Branch, as crowds switched trains to Matawan to reach the shuttle. Long Branch Police Capt. Jason Roebuck said many of the "kids" were intoxicated and that the train was "overcrowded."

Nancy Snyder, a spokesperson with NJ Transit Police Department, said the agency had not received reports of fights on trains.

Calls made to the PNC Bank Arts Center were not returned in time for publication.

Long Branch Local Editor Christopher Sheldon contributed to this report.

bud August 3, 2012 at 07:19 pm
File lawsuits vs NJ Transit for bringing these idiots here. They are just as liable as a bar owner who serves the last drink to someone who then kills someone else in an accident. Let's place a cadre of lawyers at Matawan to take names and pictures and have the cops corroborate the perps. Include PNC and Live Nation as defendants on every suit. This is an insane situation waiting to explode.
JosephGhabourLaw August 3, 2012 at 07:21 pm
Reducing traffic on New Jersey's roads is always a good idea. However, proper security is obviously needed -- on train and bus -- of this method of reaching the PNC Arts Center.
Herky August 3, 2012 at 10:19 pm
New Jersey way of Life SUE, SUE, SUE. parents send their children out for an evening of Pot and Booze,,Then SUE when the screw up?? YEA !!!
Patty N August 3, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I was a teen in the 90s and went to three 311 shows: one at PNC and two in Asbury. We didn't drink or do drugs. We were there to see a good show. Such a generation gap.
I understand that shuttling the concert goers is also a way to increase train ticket sales, but the cost of the security, and these kids' health, is not worth it. May be if they had to drive to the show they wouldn't get wasted.
Aunt Age August 4, 2012 at 01:18 am
If they are already unruley at the train station....why do we need them at the PNC Bank Arts center????? Just because there are lawn seats and 1 blade of grass left doesn't mean it has to be filled. Stay home!
Joseph Mahmah August 4, 2012 at 03:51 am
didn't have the same problems for bamboozle, what was different about this concert ? bamboozle had allot more attend and had less issues then 311, strange..
Austin August 4, 2012 at 04:16 am
the shuttles aren't the problem! Its the train ride its self...if NJ transit just stepped up and enforced a few laws we wouldn't be having this problem. Kids take the train because they know they can drink and nothing will happen. Enforce the rules on the train and i assure you this problem will subside
Anthony Tancredi August 4, 2012 at 05:22 am
The difference was the price of the ticket. People bought these for $30 bucks max, where bamboozle was $200+. Once people learned people were going, others bought tickets just for the "party". Also the train ride from shore towns to PNC, rather than to Asbury is much longer, giving people more time to drink. I was there, but it will be the last time, I partake in such activities.
Chelsea Naso (Editor) August 4, 2012 at 02:25 pm
I think a big difference was the timing. Bamboozle was an all weekend festival with people coming and going at a fairly steady pace. With 311, everyone was arriving all at the same time, overwhelming the trains and buses.
Dan S. August 4, 2012 at 04:52 pm
Outlaw alcohol. It is a drug. We should add it to our very successful war on drugs and then we will succesfully stop drinking the same way we have successfully spent billions of dollars on the drug war -- er wait...Prohibition failed, didn't it?
Big Ed August 4, 2012 at 05:10 pm
Everyone here is culpable- the kids themselves of course, the parents who allow this behavior, NJ Transit for transporting, Live Nation and PNC, even law enforcement at every level; local- for not being able to arrest what would be 100's of kids at once, - and County for not wanting to prosecute. These kids should be LOCKED UP and CHARGED for disorderly- and underage drinking/drugs.
Last August after the Kesha show I was exposed to behavior that I have NEVER seen before. I dont know what these kids are smoking (bath salts, etc) or drinking (hi caffeine drinks mixed with alcohol)- but the combination of all of the above caused near riotous behavior. If this keeps up, Live Nation should pay for a "Holding Cage" at the train station where these people who are overly indulgent can be held until they come down. I'm serious- I've been to Grateful Dead shows in the '70's and '80's and they were romper room compared to what these kids doing. These types of shows (and our tolerance of this behavior) are a ticking time bomb.
Joseph Mahmah August 4, 2012 at 08:45 pm
bamboozle was not $200, i paid $60 for the Friday pass. maybe $200 for three days but i don't see your logic. there were people at bamboozle for the "party" as i herd people saying they didn't care for the band playing they just wanted to party and drink. the weekend of bamboozle nj transit had record breaking ridership
Joseph Mahmah August 4, 2012 at 08:50 pm
i think this problem would be allot less if they didn't allow open containers on nj transit, one state trooper per train during the known concert times, they could make up the overtime pay with the hefty amount of underage drinking summons that would be handed out
Homedel August 6, 2012 at 02:07 am
This reminds me of when pinnochio got drunk and did drugs on his way to pleasure island. Why didn't the cops arrest the drunk children when they got off the train? The cops let them continue to the pnc bank arts center? And why did nj transit conductors do nothing about the hundreds of drunk children on the train? They allow drunk kids on the train????? They allow illegal activity??? Njtransit is to blame here.
Homedel August 6, 2012 at 02:10 am
Now if it was a drunk homeless guy...nj transit would have kicked him off at the first train stop and had cops called on him. Njtransit profiles and is discriminatory. All drunks should kicked off and arrested for public intoxication and the children for underage drinking. Damn...if njtransit can't stop underage drunk kids...how safe are the trains for the not so obvious "religious fanatic"?
B Boylan August 6, 2012 at 06:13 pm
Who pays for the added police and overtime costs for this necessary "security"? The shuttle busses are causing an unsafe situation that should not cost the taxpayers in this township a dime. Do you think it is a coincidence that hooligans went around Aberdeen this past saturday night and broke many many car windows? Where are the police...at the train station? Maybe they were looking for parking receipts on the ground so they could give out littering tickets....This town has to make you laugh. Stop the shuttle bus, put the police where they should be and let the kids find their own way to the concert.
debra August 6, 2012 at 06:40 pm
How do you know about the windows being broken? what area? you think the police would let you know. I agree about the shuttle busses, they should be there,whats it going to take to stop them from shuttling, a bus driver getting attacked. i mean really there is security on the bus god forbid the bus driver says something to the kids to try to calm them down and they start a riot on the bus on the parkway?
And i went to bamboozled with my 15 year old daughter and on the train on the way home it was packed but the kids were very good very quiet and they got on the train very orderely. even at the i did not see any out of control kids.
JosephGhabourLaw August 7, 2012 at 07:51 pm
Trains and buses are only "overwhelmed" when there is no planning. As well, a concert pays for its own security, which if it includes transportation, means security on the said transport. Bottom line: no excuse for anything but a smooth ride home on transit.

Newsletter & Alerts

Get the best stories each day and important breaking news

Subscribe

Not from Marlboro-ColtsNeck Patch? Find your Local Patch »

Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors. Write a new post... What's up? Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell something