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Tell Us: Should Speed Limits Change in Marlboro?

The speed limit is changing on a portion of Route 79. Where else should it change?

The county and state Department of Transportation approved a speed limit change on Route 79 between Wyncrest and Ridge Roads, reducing the speed to 45 mph.

The previous speed of 50 mph has been reduced to 45 mph. The NJ DOT signed off on the change on Jan. 4.

Marlboro residents have previously spoken out on Patch and at Township Council meetings about reducing speed limits on other township roads, including Union Hill Road.

On Wednesday, when Patch published the new Route 79 speed, Patch readers shared their mixed opinions:

Patch reader Joy Calogero said, "Well, maybe dropping it 10 mph instead of 5 would make a better impact. People drive 10 mph over the speed limit as a standard. Now, I will have even more people driving too close to me."

But Patch reader ITzcoolGUY said, "This is absolutely absurd. Vehicles now days are meant to be driven faster. They can accelerate, turn, and respond quicker and quieter than ever before. With these improvements we should RAISE THE SPEED LIMITS not lower them. I think a bigger concern for me is the Generation X drivers getting too old to drive. With age they are loosing their vision and reaction times. More should be done to make sure that older individuals actually belong on the road."

Tell us: What do you think? Should more speed limits be lowered in town? Should they be raised in certain areas? Comment below and join the conversation.

Lucy Block January 31, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Ridge Road is already 25 but rarely people follow that, so they can make it any speed limit, the speeders will still speed. It is a big hill and once they pick up speed going DOWN it's like they don't even tap their brakes or look at their speedometer. I work in New Brunswick and they have speed humps. They slow me down to at least 15 and they are about 100 feet apart. I am unsure why Marlboro said no to speed bumps if other towns have them to keep their residents safe.
anonymous January 31, 2013 at 01:51 PM
The speed limit on Route 79 in Marlboro between Ryan Road and Dutch Lane should be no higher than 40. What is really needed is some serious enforcement of the traffic laws. Tailgating (and I do not mean the kind that takes place in parking lots before football games) should be declared the offical state pastime since everyone does it; however, it is very dangerous and the police should make at least a small effort to bring an end to it.
TanMan January 31, 2013 at 03:21 PM
Patch, this is a ridiculous and inflaming question. Of COURSE people want lower speed limits where they live. But not on their route to work! And of COURSE the young and invulnerable want higher speed limits everywhere. And then there are the people who drive UNDER the speed limit no matter what's posted (you know who they are). So no, you're not going to reach a consensus here, just a lot of flaming.
Kaitlyn Anness January 31, 2013 at 03:26 PM
This article, as all of our Tell Us articles are, is a way to generate conversation within the community and take the temperature of opinions. The comments on this topic have varied greatly. If people feel strongly one way or another, they are always invited to share their opinions on Patch.
Pam January 31, 2013 at 04:29 PM
Patch reader ITzcoolGUY needs a reality check and a fact check. He's really absurd. You don't set a speed limit according to how fast the vehicle can go! Our roads are not meant to be speedways! I'll bet he's one of those drivers who passes on the right and typically drives at least 20 MPH over the speed limit in the left lane pushing everyone else over to the right even if they're driving over the limit. He should also check the age range for Generation X!
ITZcoolGUY January 31, 2013 at 08:08 PM
Pam, you are right on one thing. I was mistaken in writing Generation X as I did mean the Baby Boomer Generation. I do still believe, albeit, that we need to be more stringent in testing older drivers to make sure that they are not compromising safety on our roadways.
ITZcoolGUY January 31, 2013 at 08:09 PM
There is no correlation between lowering speed limits and safety. There have been various studies that have proven this fact including FHWA-RD-92-084 which concludes: "The data collected during this study indicate that there are no benefits, either from a safety or operational point of view, from establishing speed limits less than the 85th percentile speed." FHWA also states, "In addition, posting speed limits well below the 85th percentile speed did not reduce accidents. Contrary to popular belief, the results indicate that raising speed limits did not result in an increase in accidents (in fact, accidents decreased)." Increasing the speed limits lowered the rate of accidents whereas lowering the speed limit increased accidents. Working for a civil engineering firm I understand speed limits are set in consideration of safety standards applicable to that section of the roadway. I also know that these standards (generally considered unsound) are rarely updated to account for technology that makes it justifiable to drive at higher speeds. Lowering the speed limit has no advantages. It merely offers a false sense of security to individuals who don't understand that speed does not kill, reckless driving does
cynicinmarlboro January 31, 2013 at 09:55 PM
Does anyone know anyone who actually drives the speed limit on any road in New Jersey? Speeding is the norm, including policemen simply on patrol (and why don't they have to obey the same laws except in an emergency involving their flashers and/or sirens?). The new signs will make it easier to give the initial tickets to speeders, but once the police cars are gone from that section, it will be back to normal - speeding, as usual.
Leo January 31, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Why would anybody approve a speed limit reduction on rout 79? It is a wide state highway, straight as an arrow, with no spots of particular traffic activity or danger. Please RAISE all the speed limits on all the through roads in Marlboro. They are ridiculous right now.
DAEBJ January 31, 2013 at 10:28 PM
I think this is a great idea. But I do agree with Joy, that it should be lowered 10 mph, not just 5. The way people on my street drive is insane. I had my neighbor blow past the school bus picking up my child the other day. If we lowered it everywhere and enforced by giving out tickets, it would become the norm to just drive that speed.
Leo January 31, 2013 at 10:31 PM
Why would anyone approve a reduction of the speed limit on Rt 79? It is a wide state highway, straight as an arrow, with no spots of particular traffic activity or hidden danger.
Mamom February 01, 2013 at 12:45 AM
I make a left turn from Pleasant Valley Rd on to Rt 79S many times a day in my car and also the 54 passanger school bus I drive. Most of the time Rt 79 is clear when I make the left turn. BUT, because some people feel the need to drive 60 in a 50 MPH zone, before I know it someone is right there up my bumper. Then the driver of the speeding car beeps their horn at me like I did something wrong. Maybe the 45 MPH speed limit will work for some but you are still going to have the driver that feels the need to speed.
ITZcoolGUY February 01, 2013 at 01:51 PM
There is no correlation between lowering speed limits & safety. There have been various studies that have proven this fact including FHWA-RD-92-084 which concludes: "The data collected during this study indicate that there are no benefits, either from a safety or operational point of view, from establishing speed limits less than the 85th percentile speed." FHWA also states, "In addition, posting speed limits well below the 85th percentile speed did not reduce accidents. Contrary to popular belief, the results indicate that raising speed limits did not result in an increase in accidents (in fact, accidents decreased)." Increasing the speed limits lowered the rate of accidents whereas lowering the speed limit increased accidents. Working for a civil engineering firm I understand speed limits are set in consideration of safety standards applicable to that section of the roadway. I also know that these standards (generally considered unsound) are rarely updated to account for technology that makes it justifiable to drive at higher speeds. Lowering the speed limit has no advantages. It merely offers a false sense of security to individuals who don't understand that speed does not kill, reckless driving does.
annoyomous February 01, 2013 at 03:00 PM
Everyone is always rushing to get from one place to another. I am even guilty of it. But it is for our safety. If you choose to speed way over the speed limit, you are putting you and others at risk. Cars are meant to be driven responsibly not reckless.
DAEBJ February 01, 2013 at 06:11 PM
We seem to forget that 79 has HOMES on it. Its not the turnpike. Except for the little part where it meets 18, it is two lanes. There are schools on it. Slow down people and smell the roses.
Leo February 01, 2013 at 08:43 PM
Thank You for making sense and citing sources!
Suze February 01, 2013 at 11:03 PM
The speed limit on route 79 should be 35 near the H.S., that is a very dangerous section of road there for the kids to walk on. There is no reason for that road to have a speed limit of 50. I would be fine with a speed limit of 40 on the entire stretch of road except by the H.S. it should be lower. Also, we desperately need a left turn signal on the intersection of Wyncrest Road and Route 520 by the Marlboro library. There is a blind curve there and it is also hard to see when the sun is setting in the evening. Cars routinely go through the red light while making their left turn as there is a lot of traffic coming in the opposite direction. I don't why no one is bringing this issue up.
Suze February 01, 2013 at 11:09 PM
The speed limit on School Road between Wyncrest Rd and Rt 79 should probably be raised to 30, I constantly have to warn visitors that the speed limit is only 25 mph due to it being a trap. It also takes forever to get to the post office when I travel on that road. Only on the curve should their be a sign warning people to slow down to 15 mph. Otherwise 30 mph strictly enforced would probably be fine. It's a main road with a double yellow line....

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